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John Douglas interview, Brisbane December 1903

The Brisbane Courier, Friday, 11 December 1903, p. 5

THE HON. JOHN DOUGLAS, VISIT TO BRISBANE. AN INTERESTING INTERVIEW.

The Hon. John Douglas, C.M.G., Government Resident at Thursday Island, was a passenger to Brisbane by the E. and A. liner Empire, which arrived in Moreton Bay on Wednesday night. Mr. Douglas came up to Brisbane yesterday. It is eighteen months since the Government Resident at the gates of Australia was in Brisbane—on the occasion of his return from a holiday trip to England. He looks remarkably well, and discussed with keen interest the public questions of the day. Though resident in the far North, Mr. Douglas keeps in touch with the world. He was good enough to grant an interview to our representative on board the Empire, and to offer some observations upon questions of interest in connection with his sphere of labour.

PEARL-SHELLING INDUSTRY.

The main topic of course with any one from Thursday Island is the pearl-shelling industry, and the first question put to Mr. Douglas was upon the subject. “The season has been a very bad one,” Mr. Douglas said, “the worst we have known for bad weather, that means dirty water, and the take of shell up to September was scarcely anything, our lowest record. During the past two months, however, there has been better weather, and a good deal of lost ground has been made up. The shellers have been lucky enough also to get a good many pearls, some of them very valuable. They will make up for a good deal of the lost time earlier in the year. Apart from this fact, in connection with the industry everything at Thursday Island is going as usual.”

SUPPLY OF LABOUR.

“The supply of labour for the pearling industry is fairly good now; there are no serious complaints about it. I may mention that there are a good many New Guinea natives engaged in the fisheries, and they are doing fairly well. I should say that there are about 200 New Guinea boys employed. They are well looked after by their own Government—the Government of New Guinea—which insists that the natives shall only work under the superintendence of white men. The boys are really doing very well for the industry, and they are not now being sacrificed as they were at first. In the earlier periods, when they were engaged, they were allowed to die of berri berri for want of proper food. They are recruited in New Guinea, and some of them are employed in New Guinea waters.”

NEW GUINEA AFFAIRS.

Mr. Douglas declined to discuss the position of affairs in New Guinea, but from passing remarks it was apparent that he regards the financial question there as of considerable importance to the Commonwealth, so much so that it may be necessary that the Commonwealth should make advances necessary for the development of industries, and make the funds a charge against the possession. Mr. Douglas, on being directly questioned on the subject, was disinclined to pursue it publicly. The Tugari head hunters, who used to occasionally visit Queensland shores, especially the islands near New Guinea, have been very quiet of late, and seem to have given up their desperate pastime. They have not been heard of for some time. Upon the mining development of New Guinea and the work of the missionaries Mr. Douglas would not speak, though he was recently in close touch with that country. The reason of this, it may be inferred, is that he prefers to let the Administrator of New Guinea speak for his own country.

MARITIME BOUNDARY.

On one point connected in a measure with New Guinea Mr. Douglas was less reticent. He was questioned as to the position of a proposal made some time ago for the rectification of the maritime boundary of Queensland. “I am rather anxious,” he said, “to draw the attention of the Government to the necessity of a further rectification. Our present boundary runs right up to the shores of New Guinea, and includes islands which are not only adjacent to, but really part of New Guinea. The Commonwealth Parliament is going to legislate on New Guinea next session, but before they do any act of legislation I hope this matter of the rectification of the boundaries will be provided for. It was all settled some time ago by correspondence, Sir Wm. Macgregor and the Queensland Government, I believe in Sir Hugh Nelson’s time, had arranged it, and the Colonial Office had agreed to it, and all that was wanted was an Act of Parliament in Queensland. However, it was never brought on. There may be a little objection on the part of the Thursday Island people to it, but I am convinced that the islands concerned will be better looked after by the New Guinea Government than under the Queensland Government, which seems rather a strong thing to say, but it is not possible for Queensland to do the work so well. I know all the facts bearing on the subject at present, and am satisfied that the administration from New Guinea will be better than from Thursday Island.”

DARNLEY AND MURRAY ISLANDS.

At Darnley Island, Mr. Douglas said, the natives are very prosperous, and a much larger number of them are going into the pearling industry, earning their livelihood at pearl shelling; indeed, some of them are doing remarkably well, but they have not the faculty of keeping their money. At Murray Island the people have bought and paid for two boats, which are their sole property, and a boat has also been purchased on behalf of the natives of Baru. They expect also to work it out in a few months’ time.

THE NATIVES.

“The native population generally, I may say,” Mr. Douglas remarked, in reply to a question, “are in a healthy condition, and certainly not decreasing in numbers, though there have been deaths amongst them, which can scarcely be accounted for. Some of the women have died from puerperal fever. My interests in the islands are centred in the schools, which I think are doing good work, and my chief mission to Brisbane is to see the Government on the subject in the hope that the work may be extended to some degree.”

These remarks were not applicable to the mainland aboriginals, concerning whom Mr. Douglas has a somewhat different opinion. “The poor things,” he said, “it is very difficult to save them. The mission stations are doing good work amongst them, and Mapoon is giving satisfactory results. There have been a considerable number of halfcaste children established there permanently, and who are being educated. These children come from the Normanton district chiefly.” By Mr. Douglas’s tone rather than his words, there was conveyed an impression that even in the far North the preservation of the aboriginals as a race appears hopeless. He, however, seemed appreciative of the duty of the State in regulating the employment of the aboriginals and in saving them from themselves as far as possible.

THE DUTCH PORT MAROUKE.

The interest at Thursday Island in the Dutch port of Marouke seems to have subsided. “It (the port) is ‘just going on,’” Mr. Douglas said, but the expected exodus from Thursday Island has not taken place. The Dutch are spending a good deal of money on the port, and will gradually acquire information about the country which is opened up. The Dutch steamer which used to come in once a month has ceased plying between Thursday Island and Batavia, but it still runs between Batavia and Marouke. A Dutch gunboat comes over occasionally, either the Lombok or Van Dorn. “We are very good friends, and Mr. Mitchell, of Thursday Island, has been appointed Dutch Consul and flies the Dutch flag.”

TORRES STRAITS MINING.

At Horn Island there is nothing doing in the way of mining, but at Possession Island work is going on, and the small crushing plant there grinds away apace.

DREDGING THE CHANNELS.

“The Chamber of Commerce,” said Mr. Douglas, “is very anxious to get something done in the way of dredging in the channels of Thursday Island, and no doubt for a very small expenditure a very great difference could be made. Whether this can be acceded to or not by the Government I do not know, but when the work can be done it should be done. Hovell Bank, not Hovell Rock, is one of the places I refer to. It might be dredged to a very small extent, so as to provide considerable convenience to passing steamers. Another place which might be dealt with is what we call the Seventeen-foot Patch, which could be dredged in a few weeks’ time. We hope to see this work done soon, and that Thursday Island should not be overlooked as it has been lately.”

Mr. Douglas is staying at the Bellevue Hotel.